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Sep. 27th, 2004 11:14 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
irene221bЯ перенесла в журнал свой старый виртуальный дневник, просто чтобы не пропал в пучинах интернета.
Добраться туда можно начиная c первой записи:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/irene221b/37373.html
и дальше листать через NextEntry, или через Календарь - начинается 30.4.2001.
Хочу предупредить, что задумывался он для внутреннего употребления, так что начинается в жанре жесткогопорно лытдыбра; но потом подключились некоторые друзья, и появилась более осмысленная информация.
Update:
Если вы листаете через Next Entry, ЖЖ путается от большого перерыва. Поэтому после записи от 6.9.2001 надо снова идти в календарь и искать 9.3.2002. Или продолжить отсюда:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/irene221b/47889.html
Добраться туда можно начиная c первой записи:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/irene221b/37373.html
и дальше листать через NextEntry, или через Календарь - начинается 30.4.2001.
Хочу предупредить, что задумывался он для внутреннего употребления, так что начинается в жанре жесткого
Update:
Если вы листаете через Next Entry, ЖЖ путается от большого перерыва. Поэтому после записи от 6.9.2001 надо снова идти в календарь и искать 9.3.2002. Или продолжить отсюда:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/irene221b/47889.html
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Date: 2004-09-27 04:59 am (UTC)Но почему записи обрываются концом августа 2001 ?!
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Date: 2004-09-27 05:33 am (UTC)Ну не мой лично журнал глупый, а у Журнала в этом месте в алгоритме дырка, в этом смысле. :-) Но все кончается в декабре 2002, дальше можно не искать.
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Date: 2004-09-27 07:51 am (UTC)http://www.livejournal.com/users/irene221b/2002/12/02/
> Не говоря уже о том, что ты совсем как родная стала :-)
:-)
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Date: 2004-09-27 08:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-27 02:47 pm (UTC)(Вообще я давно заметила, что когда человек пишет, он очень раскрывается, и можно многое узнать совсем не связанное с темами собственно текстов. Но с этой стороны телевизора я в первый раз. :-) )
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Date: 2004-09-28 12:33 am (UTC)а в красотах цивилизации мне интересно разбираться...
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Date: 2004-09-28 06:05 am (UTC)Anyway, so you know everything about yourself? That's impressive and very rare. :-) BTW, it is possible to expose yourself in your genre as well, the genre does not matter.
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Date: 2004-09-28 03:16 pm (UTC)As to exposing myself - and now in all earnest- you'll never know I have done it. Even if I do, I'll keep you guessing. Nothing personal, of course, it's a sort of generalized "you".
BTW, sometimes my writing skills do make me proud and highly contented. A poetic duel that came out of the blue
(FI-1 in this journal) has left me absolutely exultant. I would never suspect I could do at such a level with no preparation whatsoever.Don't misread me- I am boasting not because I am THAT bad. My reason is: what are friends for?! :-)))
And finally, 6/6 as promised, and you must be happy right now...
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Date: 2004-09-29 01:34 am (UTC)Yes, I've noticed that. :-)
> Even if I do, I'll keep you guessing.
Still, we can be both right. If you use some special "stealth" techniques, you could apply them even to a diary. And the other way around, someone who does not use these techniques, will be exposed even if he writes a travelogue.
So, a genre does not matter AND you stay a mysterious person. How about that? :-)
>I would never suspect I could do at such a level with no preparation whatsoever.
Yes, that was a pleasure to read. Actually, if you are into poetic duels, you might want to speak to these guys on my friends list: bukin, eliratus and yan_ka. That would be a better test than picking on defenceless women. :-)
> And finally, 6/6 as promised, and you must be happy right now...
Oh yes. I'd be even happier if I had a chance to see the game. League coverage here is an absolute rubbish. :-(
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Date: 2004-09-29 03:26 am (UTC)The matter is that I don't want people to speculate about me or my writings instead of asking direct question. That's why I say: "Guess, and you will be wrong whatever you think. Ask - and you'll know the truth". Besides, I don't like to feel exposed or taken aback. And finally, I really believe that one's life is not to be mixed with the fruits of hir imagination...
>That would be a better test than >picking on defenceless women. :-)
You might be doing her certain injustice. In fact, she was carrying her task on with dignity - far beyond my initial expectations. Her final riposte had almost taken me off guard...As to Ratner and Lednev, we have known each other for SO-o long, I could almost call them "old cronies"- had it not been for our totally incompatible views on the nature of CHGK. They are both quite well-bred
and civilized people, and we are, therefore, on speaking and even polite terms. However I would be pushed quite hard to call them "friends". That means, I can't possibly challenge them to a friendly duel. On the other hand...An ability to improvise is one of pretty many things I have never prided myself on. Until yesterday, that is! :-) I would be curious to be tested and eager to reconsider my own limits. So, if you feel like acting as a go-between... :-)))
As to football: I am very much interested in national teams because one may find some consistency there.
Clubs, howeever, have recently - due to the infamous Bossman Law- become faceless and shapeless. A play can wear 3-4 different club shirts for a year, a club changes players like a train would change passengers. Who am I to support, then? :-( That's why I don't watch national leagues (there are exceptions but very few ones)and am mildly interested in the international club competitions...
My long letter (or rather "short story" is over now :-)))
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Date: 2004-09-29 03:39 am (UTC)By now I'm pretty sure it's not a typo, it's an abbreviation of his/her, right? Well, how about a bit of direct communication - I hate it? :-) Can you imagine someone who would be offended by using "his" as an inclusive, but not offended by this murder of the language? And more importantly, why should we care about an opinion of such a person? :-)
>had it not been for our totally incompatible views on the nature of CHGK
Yet another pouring of oil onto the fire of my curiosity. (about your identity :-))
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Date: 2004-09-29 04:17 am (UTC)S- It's a pity you see it like that. In my opinion, it's ingenious and fair-
not because of someone's opinion but rather as a solution to quite a real language problem. I would call it "language development" rather than "murder of language".
Yet, all that hardly matters for the present case. We communicate to enjoy, not to fight off negative emotions. I agreed to give up the capital letter in Russian "you" because a friend asked me for it. Why wouldn't I do the same for you?!( here you see the immediate rewards brought by my favourite direct communication :-))
I can't promise it will altogether disappear from my posts- I might forget
to switch my brain tumbler. However, I will try not to. Of course, all that holds only as far our personal correspondence is concerned- my opinion on the matter stays unchanged.
Yet another pouring of oil onto the fire of my curiosity. (about your identity :-))
S- Not sure how to react to that. If you are interested in the argument, you could visit the "Shkvarki" archive and look for the discussions concerning our game (ШаХ ЧиЛиДаРо) held on June 26, 2004.
BTW, the lady has published our duel all on her own initiative! Commendable, isn't it?!
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Date: 2004-09-29 04:33 am (UTC)You don't have to. If it's a general principle of yours, it's not a problem for me. I just thought for a moment that you do that in correspondence with me specifically.
> Not sure how to react to that.
"Next time we are in the same country, we should meet in person" would be a good reaction. :-)
Shkvarki? Where is that?
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Date: 2004-09-29 05:03 am (UTC)S - You said you hated it! Well, I 'll give you the last chance to decide: if you really do not care, I''ll stick to my natural ways. If, on the other hand, you do feel disturbed by this language form, I am ready to take that into consideration. And, in any case, isn't it a perfect example of nipping a conflict in the bud?! Direct communication, my friend :-)))
As to Shkvarki, try this address:
shkvarki@chgk.info
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Date: 2004-09-29 05:12 am (UTC)Well, I do not care enough to ask you to change your natural ways. :-)
Which reminds me the most brilliant answer to the "Do you mind if I smoke?" question: If you must, you may.
Isn't English beautiful? :-)
Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 04:47 am (UTC)Well, pardon my Hebrew, but "yarad li ha-asimon". It took me quite a long time to put the clues together, Holmes would not be proud of me. :-)
Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 05:05 am (UTC)Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 05:18 am (UTC)Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 05:30 am (UTC)Been to Shkvarki? That might help you to get the gist of the differences.
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Date: 2004-09-29 05:45 am (UTC)Vist. And I do believe that this memorable game that I mentioned was the last game of your team in the club, so it all fits.
>That might help you to get the gist of the differences.
I think I have a fair idea about these differences. Edward, I'm so glad this virtual meeting of ours happened this way. I might reconsider my opinion on the usefulness of internet masks - anything that allows people to become friends, without preconceived opinions, has to be a good thing.
Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 06:00 am (UTC)I think I have a fair idea about these differences. Edward, I'm so glad this virtual meeting of ours happened this way. I might reconsider my opinion on the usefulness of internet masks - anything that allows people to become friends, without preconceived opinions, has to be a good thing.
S- I have to admit that passage has left me close to speechless. I have never worn a mask or hidden my name.
Neither have I been biased in any way.
Have you?!
And surely, you didn't impress me as wearing a mask- with your real name as a nick, and your real picture as your user pic.
Do I miss something?
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Date: 2004-09-29 06:22 am (UTC)It probably was only memorable for our team. One of our first live games, and we were promoted to the first league.
> I have to admit that passage has left me close to speechless.
:-) That's no mean feat, I think.
> I have never worn a mask or hidden my name.
Well, you didn't really advertise it either. Probably it would have been obvious for anyone with some interest in chess, but I'm so ignorant I haven't an idea how rare (or medium, or well done :-)) are IMs in Israel.
> Neither have I been biased in any way. Have you?!
No, I haven't, and that's exactly what I'm glad about. Because the echo of your differences even crossed the English channel, and I might have been biased if you didn't come bearing
giftsLivanov's face, shared interests and wonderful writings :-)> And surely, you didn't impress me as wearing a mask. Do I miss something?
No, exactly as advertised.
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Date: 2004-09-29 06:55 am (UTC)S- That surely explains why I can't recall it - one hurdle has fortunately been cleared :-)
Well, you didn't really advertise it either. Probably it would have been obvious for anyone with some interest in chess, but I'm so ignorant I haven't an idea how rare (or medium, or well done :-)) are IMs in Israel
S- Quite well done :-) I am about number 40 in Israel and around 1000th in the world - nothing to boast of.
But why should I have advertised it?
Any direct question would be answered immediately.
Because the echo of your differences even crossed the English channel
S- Curiouser and curiouser :-) Two sides have differences you happen to know about (how come, BTW?). Why would you be biased against one of those sides without ever talking to hir?
(and if you winced right now, don't be shy to mention it. The last chance, really :-))
if you didn't come bearing gifts
S- Surely, you do this faked cross-out
deliberately! How do you achieve it?
Livanov's face
S- Which has become my real SPIRITUAL one. Not physical, true, but surely spiritual...
shared interests and wonderful writings :-)
S- Thanx for that :-)BTW,you mean, in English, or both languages?
Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 08:04 am (UTC)>Any direct question would be answered immediately.
But I didn't know at the time that you are a proponent of "direct communication"! :-)
>Two sides have differences you happen to know about (how come, BTW?).
Probably some comments about the game from the people in the livejournal.
>Why would you be biased against one of those sides without ever talking to hir?
Well, the victors get to write history books, in ChGK as everywhere else.
>Surely, you do this faked cross-out
deliberately! How do you achieve it?
Of course. You open a tag called "strike", put in the middle whatever you want to cross-out, and then you close the tag.
> both languages
Both.
Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 08:30 am (UTC)S- Join the club :-) I am suffering from it, too :-(
Well, the victors get to write history books, in ChGK as everywhere else.
S- Nice to see you have no illusions concerning history books :-)
As to the victors...The 3d place answered 8 questions out of 20! That's the very reason they were so totally enraged- my questions required an ability to think and analyse (not unlike Serlock did). They are used only to recalling already known facts and sorting out endless lists of similar objects. Naturally, they had collapsed in this game- and some of them are considered World Champions.
I can imagine that storm within...
Finally, suppose someone (even a friend of yours) tells you that there is a certain Edward - a lousy CHGK player, an inadequate, retarded and totally unworthy block. Would that set it in stone for you? If you tend to answer in affirmative, I believe you are doing yourself little justice... Besides, you know this "victors" rule all too well. So, why on Earth, would this blether make you biased?!
You open a tag called "strike
S- I wish I knew WHERE I open this tag :-)
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Date: 2004-09-29 08:55 am (UTC)Hopefully not. But I'm glad to have avoided this dilemma altogether.
>I wish I knew WHERE I open this tag
Around the word(s) you want to cross out.
http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=75
Have a look at this page, they have examples of several tags. If you use 'strike' instead of, say 'lj-cut' in the first example, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 09:16 am (UTC)S- And if tomorrow there appears another victim of a shameless slander?
Not to be rude or condescending, I would like to ask you a direct question. If you don't like it, just say so -I will step back.
My question is: have you learned this lesson? Has it made you resolute to judge an argument (opinion) solely by its own quality, and not by the quantity of those supporting it?
But I didn't know at the time that you are a proponent of "direct communication"! :-)
S- Asking never hurts :-) At worst I would have dodged the question...
If you use 'strike' instead of, say 'lj-cut'
S- I believe it holds for Simagic, but I am answering through "reply"
Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 09:44 am (UTC)>I believe it holds for Simagic, but I am answering through "reply"
No, I'm answering through reply myself. You just type '<', then you type strike etc. and it all works. It's just easier through Semagic, but quite possible without.
>Asking never hurts :-) At worst I would have dodged the question...
But Edward, you were quite playful about it, let's face it. ;-) When I've asked whether we have met in Israel, you didn't tell me: "that's my name, so have we?". I've assumed you want to keep it that way.
And now to the 1M$ question. :-)
>have you learned this lesson? Has it made you resolute to judge an argument (opinion) solely by its own quality, and not by the quantity of those supporting it?
The educator in you never sleeps, does he? :-) I think I'm pretty good in recognising rational arguments and ideas, even if it comes from the source I personally dislike.
Another thing I pride myself on - I never hunt in the pack, figuratively speaking. So even if I do some soul searching, I don't really see some lurking dark beasts that need taming.
>And if tomorrow there appears another victim of a shameless slander?
Edward, I don't quite follow. If someone asked me a month ago - what do you know about this person - I'd say "the popular opinion is his team organised a game in Haifa lately, and the questions were rubbish. And he would not accept the fact when pointed to him". I don't know if it's true or not. Maybe I'd have a look at the questions and agree that they are rubbish, or maybe not. And obviously you still don't accept it as a fact. :-) Should not stop us from being friends.
Re: Mask, I know you!
Date: 2004-09-29 10:06 am (UTC)S- I have just learned something new
:-) I still believe I would rather wait for my technician to come and show me personally - if it's not that urgent, that is :-) Otherwise, I mightget a better idea where to start.
Thanx.
But Edward, you were quite playful about it, let's face it. ;-) When I've asked whether we have met in Israel, you didn't tell me: "that's my name, so have we?". I've assumed you want to keep it that way.
S- I never meant it that way -and I was sure you already knew my name by the moment you asked the question (remember this "name as abbreviation" game?)But right you are- you COULD make this supposition, it was a legitimate, so-to-say, reading of the situation. A grievous misunderstanding, then :-(
The educator in you never sleeps, does he? :-)
S- As long as my "quarry" doesn't start kicking and screaming, no :-))
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Another thing I pride myself on - I never hunt in the pack, figuratively speaking.
S- That's SO-O nice to hear, you can't even imagine! :-)))
Maybe I'd have a look at the questions and agree that they are rubbish, or maybe not. And obviously you still don't accept it as a fact. :-)
S- I do accept that they are far from being perfect. Along with that, I believe the set as an average, was much better than ANY other average set ever played in this league
Should not stop us from being friends.
S- That's not even on the agenda! I realised that you might have developed a totally different opinion of ME had it not been for my writings and our shared interests. Liking or disliking
my CHGK question is an immeasurably minor point.
Well, as far as I am concerned that will fully do for the subject. If you feel like digging it any deeper at any given point, I am at your disposal :-)
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Date: 2004-09-27 05:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-27 05:38 am (UTC)Так что, астматический кашель - это из-за Ашдода? Ну что ж, это многое объясняет. Например, как ко мне вернулась астма после почти десятилетнего перерыва.
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Date: 2004-09-27 05:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-27 08:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-09-27 08:47 am (UTC)Нет, серьезно, если нужна какая-то практическая информация - только свистни.
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Date: 2004-09-28 04:40 am (UTC)Также письмо отправил.
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Date: 2004-10-17 12:32 pm (UTC)Во время перерыва, следующую запись нашёл через календарь. И листал по календарным месяцам, пока не додумался опять перейти в режим, где есть Prev и Next.
Почему-то я обожаю читать записки переехавших. Сам такой, наверное :) вот и читаю с удовольствием: многое близко и понятно.
Одно осталось мне пока неизвестным, что подвигло Вас уехать из Эрец Исраэль. Впрочем, это может быть уже совсем личное...
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Date: 2004-10-17 12:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-18 01:46 am (UTC)Насчет фотографии - они тебя зря напугали, ничего там "такого" нет. :-) Только ты на ней выглядишь старше, чем в жизни.
Что подвигло уехать - если кратко, то шило в жопе, pardon my French. А если более подробно, то мы планировали поработать здесь несколько лет, и вернуться. Потому что (только не рассказывай это дорогому товарищу Гордону Брауну) налоги здесь все еще значительно ниже, чем в Израиле. Но в связи с аутизмом Даника все эти планы накрылись медным тазиком, и теперь мы постараемся здесь остаться.
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Date: 2004-10-18 04:52 am (UTC)А что, тут лучше поддержка для детей на Спектре? (re: "планы накрылись тазом в связи с...")
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Date: 2004-10-18 05:04 am (UTC)